Discussion:
Kill Bill: Will it win best picture at the Oscars?
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David Mills
2003-11-03 15:40:54 UTC
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I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.

-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River

Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.

It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Buckaroo Banzai
2003-11-03 16:01:49 UTC
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How can you even ask that? We all know that "From Justin to Kelly" is going
to win, and deservedly so... Kill Bill- Don't make me laugh!
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Paulo Joe Jingy
2003-11-03 20:08:02 UTC
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Post by Buckaroo Banzai
How can you even ask that? We all know that "From Justin to Kelly" is going
to win, and deservedly so... Kill Bill- Don't make me laugh!
You must be forgetting that juggernaut, "Gigli". It's in the bag.
The Righteous
2003-11-03 20:58:37 UTC
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This has to be the most rediculous cross post yet.

Fantasy and Action movies just don't win best picture these days.
Ron
2003-11-03 22:25:00 UTC
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Post by The Righteous
This has to be the most rediculous cross post yet.
Fantasy and Action movies just don't win best picture these days.
When was the last fantasy or action movie that honestly deserved
consideration?

I will not be surprised at all if ROTK takes home some major trophies.

-Ron
RogerM
2003-11-03 23:28:52 UTC
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Post by Ron
Post by The Righteous
This has to be the most rediculous cross post yet.
Fantasy and Action movies just don't win best picture these days.
When was the last fantasy or action movie that honestly deserved
consideration?
I will not be surprised at all if ROTK takes home some major trophies.
-Ron
Has everyone forgotten 'Gladiator' so soon?

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massivegrooves
2003-11-04 00:58:44 UTC
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Post by RogerM
Post by Ron
Post by The Righteous
This has to be the most rediculous cross post yet.
Fantasy and Action movies just don't win best picture these days.
When was the last fantasy or action movie that honestly deserved
consideration?
I will not be surprised at all if ROTK takes home some major trophies.
-Ron
Has everyone forgotten 'Gladiator' so soon?
Gladiator doesn't really fit in "fantasy or action movie"
Gladiators is more towards realism and historical. It has some action sure,
but that is not the basis of the movie. And it is closer to history/reality
than it is to fantasy.
The Righteous
2003-11-05 07:30:47 UTC
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Post by massivegrooves
Post by RogerM
Post by Ron
Post by The Righteous
This has to be the most rediculous cross post yet.
Fantasy and Action movies just don't win best picture these days.
When was the last fantasy or action movie that honestly deserved
consideration?
I will not be surprised at all if ROTK takes home some major trophies.
-Ron
Has everyone forgotten 'Gladiator' so soon?
Gladiator doesn't really fit in "fantasy or action movie"
Gladiators is more towards realism and historical. It has some action sure,
but that is not the basis of the movie. And it is closer to history/reality
than it is to fantasy.
I didn't think gladiator even deserved nomination. I thought it was
excellent action movie, but it really wasn't that historically
accurate. Almost all action movies are based on reality, but rarely
follow it realistically. The gladiator kind of reminds me of Chow Yun
Fat's "The Killer". An action movie that was great in both action and
plot, but not quite Oscar quality. Was it a slow year for movies when
Gladiator was nominated?
Doug Jacobs
2003-11-06 02:37:00 UTC
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Post by The Righteous
I didn't think gladiator even deserved nomination. I thought it was
excellent action movie, but it really wasn't that historically
accurate. Almost all action movies are based on reality, but rarely
follow it realistically. The gladiator kind of reminds me of Chow Yun
Fat's "The Killer". An action movie that was great in both action and
plot, but not quite Oscar quality. Was it a slow year for movies when
Gladiator was nominated?
I don't think it was, but Gladiator obviously spent the most money among
the competitors...

It got to the point where you'd see an ad for the movie during every
commercial break!
The Hollywood List
2003-11-03 21:38:07 UTC
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It is a good film but it DOES have SOME competition.

THE LIST
Post by Buckaroo Banzai
How can you even ask that? We all know that "From Justin to Kelly" is going
to win, and deservedly so... Kill Bill- Don't make me laugh!
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
zach
2003-11-03 23:02:07 UTC
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YGTBKM!
Post by Buckaroo Banzai
How can you even ask that? We all know that "From Justin to Kelly" is going
to win, and deservedly so... Kill Bill- Don't make me laugh!
IAWTP.
Giftzwerg
2003-11-03 16:28:20 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Yeeeah, kung-fu pics have a rich history of best picture Oscars...
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RogerM
2003-11-03 18:11:25 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
If this post is serious, you are clearly an idiot.
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
PF was better, yes.

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Ron
2003-11-03 18:47:07 UTC
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Taking this thread more seriously than it deserves:

Of the pictures released thus far, Mystic River and Lost in Translation
will get nominated. LOTR: ROTK will be nominated.

And you've got to realize that Oscar season hasn't even started yet.
There will be a bunch of films released late in the year (which get the
bulk of their run in January) for the sake of getting attention as well
as other more serious pictures.

e.g. The Girl in the Pearl Earring, The Company, House of Sand and Fog,
Cold Mountain, etc.

Kill Bill will have to be lucky to do more than pick up a few technical
nominations. Tarantino has an outside shot at a directorial nom, but
that's more a function of his name than the film. Cinematography and
Editing seem likely choices.
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2003-11-03 20:39:32 UTC
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teddd
2003-11-03 21:03:31 UTC
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You've gone nuts, I love Tarentino and it's a great flick but it won't
even get a nomination. I'm also sure that there will be more
contenders realeased in December.
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Franklin Harris
2003-11-03 21:48:38 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
Beating it? It won't even be nominated.
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Skye
2003-11-03 23:10:52 UTC
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And David Mills continues to be a cocksmoker.
Post by Franklin Harris
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
Beating it? It won't even be nominated.
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is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh,
oooh, the sky is the limit!" -- The Tick
massivegrooves
2003-11-04 00:55:43 UTC
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Post by Skye
And David Mills continues to be a cocksmoker.
IAWTP!!!!
Post by Skye
Post by Franklin Harris
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
Beating it? It won't even be nominated.
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Franklin Harris
Pulp Culture Online, www.pulpculture.net
"And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get
is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh,
oooh,
Post by Franklin Harris
oooh, the sky is the limit!" -- The Tick
nmstevens
2003-11-03 21:49:12 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Presuming that you're not joking -- I don't think there's a chance in
hell that "Kill Bill" will win Best Picture. I think that it's a big,
big stretch for it even to be nominated for Best Picture. It's got
mixed reviews, it's only half a movie, it's extremely violent,
Tarantino's star isn't shining nearly as brightly as it was ten years
ago -- and frankly, this isn't as interesting a movie as "Pulp
Fiction".

NMS
Tony Spadaro
2003-11-03 22:29:14 UTC
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I predict that a movie will win the best picture award. I also predict
it will be a movie released this year. I also predict that it will not
matter a hangnail to anyone but celebrity groupies like you.
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Marie A.
2003-11-04 00:30:26 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
I often wonder if any of those self-absorbed twits in your business
realize just how few people actually give a damn about these matters?
Or that fewer still even bother to watch this vile trash? The Oscars
amount to little more than a giant masturbation party thrown by what
would have been our "odd uncles" and village idiots in an earlier age.

Cordially, Marie
Ron
2003-11-04 01:43:12 UTC
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Post by Marie A.
I often wonder if any of those self-absorbed twits in your business
realize just how few people actually give a damn about these matters?
Or that fewer still even bother to watch this vile trash?
Actually, the Oscars are usually the second-most-watched television show
in a given year. Last year was an unusually low-rated year, but still
over 1 in seven people in this country watched it. Normally, that number
is closer to 1 in 5.

If this fits any definition of "how few people" watch the show, I wonder
what you think qualifies as an event that a lot of people pay attention
to. Only the Super Bowl is usually watched by more.

-Ron
Belgian Waffle
2003-11-04 02:36:10 UTC
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Post by Ron
If this fits any definition of "how few people" watch the show, I wonder
what you think qualifies as an event that a lot of people pay attention
to. Only the Super Bowl is usually watched by more.
how about the World Cup Final and the Olympics?

the one person besides Jack Valenti i know is a voter explained his
primary criteria in the acting awards as "i vote for my friends, the
people they're dating, and then the people my friends have broken up
with."

i enjoy the Oscars, and some movies come to my attention through the
Oscars, the BAFTA awards, and the Screen Actors Guild awards that i
wouldn't hear about otherwise. so to me they're good for something,
but i really can't take awards voted on by Denis Leary all that
seriously.

BW
Ron
2003-11-04 05:24:10 UTC
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Post by Belgian Waffle
Post by Ron
If this fits any definition of "how few people" watch the show, I wonder
what you think qualifies as an event that a lot of people pay attention
to. Only the Super Bowl is usually watched by more.
how about the World Cup Final and the Olympics?
There's no one Olympic event that draws those kind of numbers with any
consistency, and the World Cup Final doesn't do nearly that well in this
country (which is a shame, but that's another post).

-Ron
Doug Jacobs
2003-11-04 23:38:04 UTC
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Post by Belgian Waffle
Post by Ron
If this fits any definition of "how few people" watch the show, I wonder
what you think qualifies as an event that a lot of people pay attention
to. Only the Super Bowl is usually watched by more.
how about the World Cup Final and the Olympics?
I think he was referring to just the US audience, which doesn't follow
soccer, and thanks to NBC's horrible "coverage", most Americans don't get
to see much of the Olympics at all.
MC
2003-11-04 03:39:42 UTC
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Post by Marie A.
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
I often wonder if any of those self-absorbed twits in your business
realize just how few people actually give a damn about these matters?
Or that fewer still even bother to watch this vile trash? The Oscars
amount to little more than a giant masturbation party thrown by what
would have been our "odd uncles" and village idiots in an earlier age.
Ahem... how many people watch it every year?

Hundreds of millions -- if not billions -- worldwide.

So... um... well... there's your answer.
Doug Jacobs
2003-11-04 23:40:06 UTC
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Post by MC
Ahem... how many people watch it every year?
Hundreds of millions -- if not billions -- worldwide.
So... um... well... there's your answer.
So if millions, if not billions, decided to jump off a cliff, I suppose
you'd be right there in line with them? ;)

Last year's Oscars was the first time I ever watched the silly thing -
mainly because my girlfriend wanted to see it.

I personally don't understand the whole celebrity worship thing...
Dave Hannes
2003-11-05 04:49:19 UTC
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Post by Marie A.
I often wonder if any of those self-absorbed twits in your business
realize just how few people actually give a damn about these matters?
Or that fewer still even bother to watch this vile trash? The Oscars
amount to little more than a giant masturbation party thrown by what
would have been our "odd uncles" and village idiots in an earlier age.
Cordially, Marie
I lost all respect for "the Academy" once "American Beauty" won best
picture. AB is now 5th on my all time worst movie list:
1. Cabin Boy
2. Mom and Dad Save the Planet
3. Magnolia
4. Judge Dredd
5. American Beauty
6. Peggy Sue Got Married Tonight

Plus I can't imagine a better performance than Sean Penn in "I am Sam."

D
Richard Edwards
2003-11-05 13:17:49 UTC
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Post by Dave Hannes
I lost all respect for "the Academy" once "American Beauty" won best
Keep in mind, however, that many people love American Beauty. You're
entitled to your option, but I think it's silly to be pissed off at the
majority when they disagree with you.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm pretty damn sure this isn't
the case of the academy having their own pet movie that the public
doesn't get. This was also a fan favorite (in general).

Later,
Richard
Ted
2003-11-05 21:09:43 UTC
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Dave Hannes wrote:
snip
Post by Dave Hannes
I lost all respect for "the Academy" once "American Beauty" won best
1. Cabin Boy
2. Mom and Dad Save the Planet
3. Magnolia
4. Judge Dredd
5. American Beauty
6. Peggy Sue Got Married Tonight
You also need to see more movies (altho I can understand why you might
be afraid to after Mom and Dad Save the World).
Of course, I might think that because I'd say Cabin Boy is a unique and
good comedy. I think it was the funniest movie of its season, but I'd
need to see a list to be sure...
I've seen all the movies on your list except Magnolia, and honestly,
none of them deserve to be on an objectively horrible film list (this
doesn't mean they can't be on the list of movies you hate most; I loathe
Requiem for a Dream, even tho I understand that it's not a terrible
movie objectively) except Mom and Dad Save the World (and if you were a
big fan of the comic, then maybe Judge Dredd, altho for non-fans it
wasn't such a bad movie).
jimpgh2002
2003-11-04 01:16:11 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
You're joking, right? No way in hell it even gets nominated.
The Magnificent Bastard
2003-11-04 01:17:37 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:16:11 GMT, in rec.sport.football.fantasy,
jimpgh2002 puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again.
It does this whenever it's told -
Post by jimpgh2002
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
You're joking, right? No way in hell it even gets nominated.
Don't feed the trolls.
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Mike1
2003-11-04 05:01:49 UTC
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Post by jimpgh2002
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
You're joking, right? No way in hell it even gets nominated.
M&C looks like the competition to beat: It's being introduced in the
"sweet spot" of the year, looks like a rousing story, and ought to clean
house at the box office.

But IF it fumbles, not only will Kill Bill be nominated, I predict it
will win. (Eastwood's already received a Best Picture for "Unforgiven",
so the Academy isn't under any pressure to "owe" him anything.)

LotR will pull 'em in, but Jackson is a 'B'-quality director; it'll be a
good film, but not 'Best'.
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Shilling4Jesus
2003-11-04 06:44:28 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
you forgot to crosspost to the howard & wwf newsgroups.

oh yeah, btw..

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
(you're a crackhead)
Howard Aubrey
2003-11-04 13:55:53 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Hey, 'Pukes with Wolves' beat 'Goodfellas'.

The Academy likes Eastwood and dislikes Tarantino.

The awards are a sham, and always have been.

cheers....

HJA
Smaug69
2003-11-04 14:57:44 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
And just what would those be?
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
The same people who voted for Forrest Gump will be voting for the
Oscars again this year. Do you think they would even consider Kill
Bill? It will not get nominated. I guarantee it.

First, Kill Bill is not the kind of film that academy members
consider. Wild Bunch was an awesome film, but it never had a chance
either. They'll go for an epic period piece that has some violence
like Braveheart or Gladiator, but not a blood-soaked homage to the
martial arts films of the 1970s.

Second, it's the first part of a two-parter. Tarantino arbitrarily cut
his film into two parts and it shows.

Third, it isn't all that good, especially when compared to Pulp
Fiction or Jackie Brown.

Smaug69
josh
2003-11-04 22:58:33 UTC
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Post by Smaug69
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it. There are a couple that have a
chance.
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
And just what would those be?
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
The same people who voted for Forrest Gump will be voting for the
Oscars again this year. Do you think they would even consider Kill
Bill? It will not get nominated. I guarantee it.
First, Kill Bill is not the kind of film that academy members
consider. Wild Bunch was an awesome film, but it never had a chance
either. They'll go for an epic period piece that has some violence
like Braveheart or Gladiator, but not a blood-soaked homage to the
martial arts films of the 1970s.
Second, it's the first part of a two-parter. Tarantino arbitrarily cut
his film into two parts and it shows.
Third, it isn't all that good, especially when compared to Pulp
Fiction or Jackie Brown.
Smaug69
Kill Bill can go in to the category of ultra-violent films to get
snuffed, the same category that The Gangs of New York, and Saving
Private Ryan filled. While Tarantino may have deserved and award in
the past, although he and Roger Avary did win for screenplay in 94',
this does not have that Tarantino flair as far as dialogue goes.
Also, the film's audience seems to be a little narrower with this one,
even though it has seen a better share of commercial acceptance as far
as his other films go. I'd be really surprised if a Tarantino Kung-fu
film won best picture.
James Neibaur
2003-11-04 23:44:10 UTC
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Post by josh
I'd be really surprised if a Tarantino Kung-fu
film won best picture.
At this point, it would seem Mystic River is the type of movie Academy
voters like to embrace as Best Picture.

Personally, I would like to see something at least slightly offbeat like
Lost In Translation be considered.

JN
b
2003-11-04 20:47:42 UTC
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ROTK will win because hollywood will reward jackson for ALL THREE
films. the LOTR epic stands equal to any film ever made. as a trilogy,
it has no equal.

kill bill is a simple revenge movie built around the asian genre.
massivegrooves
2003-11-05 00:36:07 UTC
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I am hoping they reward ROTK (LOTR), be it on its own or as a collective
award for all three...whatever. Those deserve much more than they have seen
thus far, like some editing or sound or whatever they have gotten.
Post by b
ROTK will win because hollywood will reward jackson for ALL THREE
films. the LOTR epic stands equal to any film ever made. as a trilogy,
it has no equal.
kill bill is a simple revenge movie built around the asian genre.
Dave Hannes
2003-11-05 04:43:14 UTC
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Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
You need to watch more movies.
Post by David Mills
There are a couple that have a
chance.
More like 20.
Post by David Mills
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
First off, it has almost no real story. Plus the Academy consists of old
farts that hate violence.
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Don't get me wrong...I liked "Kill Bill"--its just not THAT good.

D
H
2003-11-06 05:04:25 UTC
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You don't have to be THAT good to win best picture. The Academy taste is so
narrow that Kill Bill does not stand a chance in Hell. Movies like that will
never win Best Picture. Ever. Unfortunately.

.H.
Post by Dave Hannes
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
You need to watch more movies.
Post by David Mills
There are a couple that have a
chance.
More like 20.
Post by David Mills
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
First off, it has almost no real story. Plus the Academy consists of old
farts that hate violence.
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Don't get me wrong...I liked "Kill Bill"--its just not THAT good.
D
Dingus Khan
2003-11-06 18:06:19 UTC
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Post by H
You don't have to be THAT good to win best picture. The Academy taste is so
narrow that Kill Bill does not stand a chance in Hell. Movies like that will
never win Best Picture. Ever. Unfortunately.
.H.
Good point. It's always fruity-assed shit like, "The English
Patient", "Steel Magnolias", "Terms of Endearment" (the only one of
these I actually saw), Thelma and Louise", and "Fried Green Tomatoes".
Apparently, a bunch of Dick Vermeil clones are doing the voting.

Wick
Post by H
Post by Dave Hannes
Post by David Mills
I don't see anything beating it.
You need to watch more movies.
Post by David Mills
There are a couple that have a
chance.
More like 20.
Post by David Mills
-Master and Commander
-Lord of the Rings
-Mystic River
Other than those, I don't think anything will be able to touch Kill
Bill for best picture, not to mention all of the other awards it will
win.
First off, it has almost no real story. Plus the Academy consists of old
farts that hate violence.
Post by David Mills
It is cool to see that about 10 years after Tarantino got screwed by
not winning best picture for Pulp Fiction, he will get what he
deserves by winning best picture for Kill Bill. Justice is serverd.
Who could possibly think that Forrest Gump was better than Pulp
Fiction in the first place?
Don't get me wrong...I liked "Kill Bill"--its just not THAT good.
D
Cadet Grey
2003-11-06 20:34:05 UTC
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Of the films you name, only "The English Patient" and "Terms of
Endearment" won the Best Picture Oscar.

Let's not forget that the Academy also gave Best Picture Oscars
to other sentimental fluff like "The Godfather", "The Godfather,
Part II", "Patton", "The French Connection", "The Deer Hunter",
"Platoon", "Midnight Cowboy", "Unforgiven", "Schindler's List",
"Gladiator", and those two ultimate chick flicks, "Braveheart" and
"The Silence of the Lambs".

- Grey
Post by Dingus Khan
Good point. It's always fruity-assed shit like, "The English
Patient", "Steel Magnolias", "Terms of Endearment" (the only one of
these I actually saw), Thelma and Louise", and "Fried Green Tomatoes".
Apparently, a bunch of Dick Vermeil clones are doing the voting.
R. Cohen
2003-11-07 15:53:54 UTC
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Post by Cadet Grey
Of the films you name, only "The English Patient" and "Terms of
Endearment" won the Best Picture Oscar.
Let's not forget that the Academy also gave Best Picture Oscars
to other sentimental fluff like "The Godfather", "The Godfather,
Part II", "Patton", "The French Connection", "The Deer Hunter",
"Platoon", "Midnight Cowboy", "Unforgiven", "Schindler's List",
"Gladiator", and those two ultimate chick flicks, "Braveheart" and
"The Silence of the Lambs".
- Grey
Very good point. But I still don't think Kill Bill stands a chance in
hell. It's a very entertaining film but it is very narrow in focus
and appeal. The extreme bloodletting is NOT for everyone. It's funny
and it's campy but I don't think it's good enough to be "best
picture". I don't have any problem with the list above except maybe
for Gladiator. I think every film on that list above was better then
Kill Bill
Post by Cadet Grey
Post by Dingus Khan
Good point. It's always fruity-assed shit like, "The English
Patient", "Steel Magnolias", "Terms of Endearment" (the only one of
these I actually saw), Thelma and Louise", and "Fried Green Tomatoes".
Apparently, a bunch of Dick Vermeil clones are doing the voting.
Mike1
2003-11-07 10:00:09 UTC
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Post by H
You don't have to be THAT good to win best picture. The Academy taste is so
narrow that Kill Bill does not stand a chance in Hell. Movies like that will
never win Best Picture. Ever. Unfortunately.
Until "Unforgiven", nobody ever thought a western would win.
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Stephen Cooke
2003-11-07 13:18:47 UTC
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Post by Mike1
Post by H
You don't have to be THAT good to win best picture. The Academy taste is so
narrow that Kill Bill does not stand a chance in Hell. Movies like that will
never win Best Picture. Ever. Unfortunately.
Until "Unforgiven", nobody ever thought a western would win.
Define "nobody".

Then find a copy of Cimarron.

swac
Mike1
2003-11-10 07:13:31 UTC
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Post by Stephen Cooke
Post by Mike1
Post by H
You don't have to be THAT good to win best picture. The Academy taste is so
narrow that Kill Bill does not stand a chance in Hell. Movies like that will
never win Best Picture. Ever. Unfortunately.
Until "Unforgiven", nobody ever thought a western would win.
Define "nobody".
Then find a copy of Cimarron.
Well, OK. A western within the last seventy years.
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