finally, some decent looking realtime graphics from PS3

[A***@gmail.com]

I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX

credit to gofreak for these:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000

but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

[wire111]

Uhhh, wrong board, dude.

[Paul Heslop]

Post by wire111
Uhhh, wrong board, dude.

that's cos he's an xposter

alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia, rec.games.video.sony,
alt.games.video.sony-playstation2, uk.games.video.playstation,
alt.games.video.xbox

[A***@gmail.com]

uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.

your post is a waste of bandwidth.

Post by Paul Heslop

Post by wire111
Uhhh, wrong board, dude.

that's cos he's an xposter
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia, rec.games.video.sony,
alt.games.video.sony-playstation2, uk.games.video.playstation,
alt.games.video.xbox
--
Paul (This is really happening, happening)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

[Chris F]

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

and what has the xbox got to do with it then?

[Paul Heslop]

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

Did I say you got the wrong groups? I said you're an xposting twat

[Don Freeman]

Post by Paul Heslop

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

Did I say you got the wrong groups? I said you're an xposting twat

Paul, you should feel ashamed of yourself, you are doing a disservice to
twats everywhere by comparing them to him.

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Don Freeman

Post by Paul Heslop

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

Did I say you got the wrong groups? I said you're an xposting twat

Paul, you should feel ashamed of yourself, you are doing a disservice to
twats everywhere by comparing them to him.

lol, true

[Paul Heslop]

Post by Don Freeman

Post by Paul Heslop

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

Did I say you got the wrong groups? I said you're an xposting twat

Paul, you should feel ashamed of yourself, you are doing a disservice to
twats everywhere by comparing them to him.
--

heh, that always gets me every time :O)

[Michael Cargill]

Post by A***@gmail.com
uhhh, no, I got all the right groups, including NVIDIA since they're
responsible for PS3's graphics.

How is alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia the "right group"? That newsgroup
is for the discusion of Nvidia GPU's (as in them being peripherals) within
computers. The PS3 is a home console that contains a non-peripheral Nvidia
GPU.

Post by A***@gmail.com
your post is a waste of bandwidth.

As are all of yours.

[furious gibbon]

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

they're a bit average... apart from the R&C shots which look good,
everything else looks very run of the mill, scroll down and see what
sony were pushing as the real thing for motorstorm...

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by furious gibbon

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

they're a bit average... apart from the R&C shots which look good,
everything else looks very run of the mill, scroll down and see what sony
were pushing as the real thing for motorstorm...

a bit average for still shots maybe. But i'm sure in motion they looked a
hell of a lot better. I would say the only ones that were underwhelming for
me were the warhawk one, and the car being shot in the desert, but that one
isnt even a game, its a demo to demonstrate a specific feature of the
console.

The whole point of GDC is to get together with other people and share
knowledge, so that you can make your games better. So when warhawk finally
comes out, it will be looking as 'busy' as the R&C demo.

I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

[Chris F]

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?

hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?
hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)

Chris, its ok if you feel you need to defend your binky. But personally, get
a grip bro. What are you trying to prove to yourself? That you made the
right purchase? Dont you think its a little to early to be nervous?

Post by Chris F
--
gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk

[Chris F]

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:52:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?
hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)

Chris, its ok if you feel you need to defend your binky. But personally, get
a grip bro. What are you trying to prove to yourself? That you made the
right purchase? Dont you think its a little to early to be nervous?

im not trying to prove anything, i was merely stating that scenes of
the kind you've described already exist, and look pretty impressive.

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:52:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been
cool
to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?
hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)

Chris, its ok if you feel you need to defend your binky. But personally, get
a grip bro. What are you trying to prove to yourself? That you made the
right purchase? Dont you think its a little to early to be nervous?

im not trying to prove anything, i was merely stating that scenes of
the kind you've described already exist, and look pretty impressive.

In other words you didnt look at the pictures? Sinces its only as i
described?

[Chris F]

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:05:49 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
In other words you didnt look at the pictures? Sinces its only as i
described?

no, you didnt describe the pictures, you wondered what the video they
were taken from would look like.

i merely pointed out two other examples of games with similar
scenarios to the ones you were referring to, and i'm seriously failing
to see your problem with me doing so.

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:05:49 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
In other words you didnt look at the pictures? Sinces its only as i
described?

no, you didnt describe the pictures, you wondered what the video they
were taken from would look like.
i merely pointed out two other examples of games with similar
scenarios to the ones you were referring to, and i'm seriously failing
to see your problem with me doing so.
--

nothing worse than a troll in denial. I've got better things to do with my
time.

[Chris F]

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:26:15 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:05:49 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
In other words you didnt look at the pictures? Sinces its only as i
described?

no, you didnt describe the pictures, you wondered what the video they
were taken from would look like.
i merely pointed out two other examples of games with similar
scenarios to the ones you were referring to, and i'm seriously failing
to see your problem with me doing so.
--

nothing worse than a troll in denial. I've got better things to do with my
time.

fine, if thats your opinion, you're welcome to it.

personally, i think there are a few people in this group who need to
realise that not everyones preferences and views are as polarised as
their own.

all i was doing was pointing out that, as a tech demo, or rather a
blurry screenshot from a tech demo, that particular shot shows nothing
unique as it is a system that has been put into pactice in actual
gameplay in the two titles i mentioned.

sorry if this doesn't seem relevant to you because these games happen
to be on another platform.

[Slitheen]

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?
hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)
--

And what have PS3 demos got to do with X360 then?

Cuts both ways, dude. :)

[Chris F]

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:24:29 GMT, "Slitheen"

Post by Slitheen

Post by Chris F
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:17:42 -0500, "Brenden D. Chase"

Post by Brenden D. Chase
I wonder if that demo with all the soldiers standing there being blown up
looked a bit like that scene from Lord of rings?? It must have been cool to
watch bodies go flying.

what, like ninety nine knights (or whatever its name is) on the 360?
hell, even kameo has this to some degree in the battle scenes :)
--

And what have PS3 demos got to do with X360 then?
Cuts both ways, dude. :)

he was talking about mass battle scenes, and how they'd look. i was
pointing out that there are already some games that do this sort of
thing quite effectively.

the OP had nothing to do with xbox, but brendan's post had moved away
from the original direction of the thread, and i commented, making a
couple of relevant examples.

[Air Raid]

Now here's an 'impressive' montage of PS3 footage from GDC...
impressive only because Sony deceptively mixes real-time with
pre-rendered footage. which in effect creates the impression of
'elevating' the real-time stuff because it's spliced with the more
impressive
(but not real) prerendered stuff.


standard-def quicktime:
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7805&pl=game&type=mov
standard-def wmv:
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7805&pl=game&type=wmv

high-def quicktime:
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7806&pl=game&type=mov
high-def wmv:
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7806&pl=game&type=wmv

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Air Raid
Now here's an 'impressive' montage of PS3 footage from GDC...
impressive only because Sony deceptively mixes real-time with
pre-rendered footage. which in effect creates the impression of
'elevating' the real-time stuff because it's spliced with the more
impressive
(but not real) prerendered stuff.
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7805&pl=game&type=mov
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7805&pl=game&type=wmv
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7806&pl=game&type=mov
http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7806&pl=game&type=wmv

All of that stuff looked like the prerendered stuff from TGS, which if you
download the file, its labeled as such.

Some of those games should have no trouble looking like that when they are
actually finished.

[Kolben Bohrung]

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

I seem to recall seeing those images for The Getaway sometime last year.

[Brenden D. Chase]

Post by Kolben Bohrung

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

I seem to recall seeing those images for The Getaway sometime last year.

It WAS the same demo, except for the fact that this time the moved the
camera around.

[Michael Cargill]

Post by A***@gmail.com
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

Wether they turn out to be pre-rendered or not most of us would like to
shoot or hang you anyway for being such a spamming, cross-posting twat.

[Air Raid]

nobody cares about cross posting, and YOUR post is fucking spam,
you dirty brown shitstained underpants-wearing POS.

[JoblessDave]

Post by Air Raid
nobody cares about cross posting, and YOUR post is fucking spam,
you dirty brown shitstained underpants-wearing POS.

You're a twat, all right. And you know it.

If you didn't want to be a twat you'd post under one name.

[Chris F]

Post by Air Raid
nobody cares about cross posting, and YOUR post is fucking spam,
you dirty brown shitstained underpants-wearing POS.

LOL

"I DON'T SMELL, IT'S YOU THAT SMELLS!!! NYAH NYAH NAH NAH NAH!!!!"

seriously, you do realise what you sound like yeah?

[Slitheen]

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX

Some of them look great - all apart from Warhawk....which looks decidedly
mediocre. Not that these mean anything, they're probably using about 25%, if
that, of what it *will* eventually be pushing around.

[jCena212]

some real and some fake.

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

[Blig Merk]

It is mind-numbingly amazing how so many nitwits have gotten the term
'pre-rendered' so screwed up and out of whack that it is now like the
proverbial mixing up "your" and "you're" on Usenet, which are two words
with two completely different meanings.
Those TGS2005 demos were not 'pre-rendered CGI', they were 'target
renders' run on Devkits, just not at gameplay framerates and not being
shown real-time. They had everything cranked on, something you would
not do in a release game, and they were run at 1 to 5 frames per
second, with screen captures being turned into movies.
The same demos at GDC were being run real-time at gameplay framerates,
so that is why a lot of features were 'tuned down'. Plus Sony said they
were several months old at this point. They are not going to show the
very latest at GDC. GDC is for game developers, not the press or
consumer media. E3 is not totally open either but it has become a major
press event over the years, so it is going to be when you see the
almost latest and greatest. Even at E3, the versions of things being
shown are not necessarily going to represent the very latest
development level, close but not exactly. GDC is too small and
specialized to bring out the big guns.

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

[MS#1Fanboy-JoJo]

Post by Blig Merk
It is mind-numbingly amazing how so many nitwits have gotten the term
'pre-rendered' so screwed up and out of whack that it is now like the
proverbial mixing up "your" and "you're" on Usenet, which are two words
with two completely different meanings.

I'd imagine the same way you've screwed up with believing everything Sony
tells you. Your(lol... I just love to piss you off little fella) the biggest
nitwit around here and thats probably why your pea sized mind is numb.

[Li'l Slugger]

Post by MS#1Fanboy-JoJo

Post by Blig Merk
It is mind-numbingly amazing how so many nitwits have gotten the term
'pre-rendered' so screwed up and out of whack that it is now like the
proverbial mixing up "your" and "you're" on Usenet, which are two words
with two completely different meanings.

I'd imagine the same way you've screwed up with believing everything Sony
tells you. Your(lol... I just love to piss you off little fella) the biggest
nitwit around here and thats probably why your pea sized mind is numb.

We shouldn't be mad at bilgemerk. We should be mad at that fruity little
club for scrambling its brain.

[blue]

Post by Blig Merk
It is mind-numbingly amazing how so many nitwits have gotten the term
'pre-rendered' so screwed up and out of whack that it is now like the
proverbial mixing up "your" and "you're" on Usenet, which are two words
with two completely different meanings.
Those TGS2005 demos were not 'pre-rendered CGI', they were 'target
renders' run on Devkits, just not at gameplay framerates and not being
shown real-time. They had everything cranked on, something you would
not do in a release game, and they were run at 1 to 5 frames per
second, with screen captures being turned into movies.
The same demos at GDC were being run real-time at gameplay framerates,
so that is why a lot of features were 'tuned down'. Plus Sony said they
were several months old at this point. They are not going to show the
very latest at GDC. GDC is for game developers, not the press or
consumer media. E3 is not totally open either but it has become a major
press event over the years, so it is going to be when you see the
almost latest and greatest. Even at E3, the versions of things being
shown are not necessarily going to represent the very latest
development level, close but not exactly. GDC is too small and
specialized to bring out the big guns.

Post by A***@gmail.com
I believe these are all real-time, running on Cell and Nvidia's RSX
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=92000
but if they prove to be yet more pre-rendered CGI, feel free to shoot
me or hang me.

It's amazing isn't it? I think the above is the closest I've seen (from
merk) to "Oh shit those actually look very average!" (What the rest of
us were thinking).

What ever excuses he puts up he still has to live with the fact that the
first time --THE FIRST TIME-- Sony decide to show some actual real time
in game footage it's completely underwhelming.

I'm sure it looks better moving too, It would have to.

[Izzy Mandelbaum]

GDC is too small and specialized to bring out the big guns.

Your excuses are excellent.

[Zackman]

Post by Blig Merk
They are not going to show the
very latest at GDC. GDC is for game developers, not the press or
consumer media.

Yeah, why would they want to keep the people who are MAKING the games up to
date on the latest developments and capabilities of the technology? Better
to keep the people whose work will be supporting your entire operation in
the dark, right?

You're like a broken record. They're going to reveal PS3's true power at
CES! I mean Destination Playstation! I mean GDC! I mean the Playstation
press conference! I mean E3! Wait, they're not going to open their kimono
until launch! I mean Christmas! I mean, of course first-gen PS3 games don't
use the system's full power, we'll see the true PS3 power in 2007! I mean
2008! I mean 2010: Odyssey 2!

Why don't you quit being a simpering apologist for the company that
repeatedly lied to you and just wait until you can actually go into a store,
buy a PS3 and play the games along with the rest of us? Of course you still
won't have any basis to compare it to Xbox 360 then since you're too much of
a fanboy/welfare case to own more than one console, but at least your
whining won't be quite as embarassingly inaccurate.

-Z-